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		<title>Comment on MAZE General Comments by vewatkin</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/maze-general-comments/comment-page-13/#comment-23466</link>
		<dc:creator>vewatkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2026 21:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on MAZE General Comments by ritz</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/maze-general-comments/comment-page-13/#comment-23465</link>
		<dc:creator>ritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2026 14:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the last 7 years, my music taste has gotten better (or worse). I was listening to Fievel is Glauque&#039;s 4000 Rooms the other day and it struck me as the Maziest song I&#039;d ever heard, both in lyrical content and the heady puzzlement of its overall experience...

And lost, deep in
Talk, must I assume
We shall resume
4000 rooms
To devise and construct

The door is stuck
Before the floor, you gotta build it up
After three-thousand-nine-nine-nine we had some luck

Such an epic arrangement of chambers you had never saw
A honeycomb for ages all
Designed for you
Regal or crude
4000 rooms
That to view you were born

They&#039;re all your own
You come inside with fam&#039;ly like a home
For these 4000 rooms you have already known

:) Isn&#039;t this song something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last 7 years, my music taste has gotten better (or worse). I was listening to Fievel is Glauque&#8217;s 4000 Rooms the other day and it struck me as the Maziest song I&#8217;d ever heard, both in lyrical content and the heady puzzlement of its overall experience&#8230;</p>
<p>And lost, deep in<br />
Talk, must I assume<br />
We shall resume<br />
4000 rooms<br />
To devise and construct</p>
<p>The door is stuck<br />
Before the floor, you gotta build it up<br />
After three-thousand-nine-nine-nine we had some luck</p>
<p>Such an epic arrangement of chambers you had never saw<br />
A honeycomb for ages all<br />
Designed for you<br />
Regal or crude<br />
4000 rooms<br />
That to view you were born</p>
<p>They&#8217;re all your own<br />
You come inside with fam&#8217;ly like a home<br />
For these 4000 rooms you have already known</p>
<p>:) Isn&#8217;t this song something?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Room 26 by vewatkin</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/room-26/comment-page-3/#comment-23464</link>
		<dc:creator>vewatkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2026 02:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think it&#039;s likely that Manson selected the phrase &quot;devilry thirty eight&quot; and worked backwards to a puzzle, and the manner of assembling this phrase makes it seem even less likely. 

It does stick out like a sore thumb that you can spell THIRTY and THREE EIGHT in consecutive sentences with some odd wording, but you can actually spell THIRTY with the letters in multiple sentences on this page, and plenty of sentences on other pages.  It&#039;s just not a rare assemblage of letters.

You can also spell THREE ZERO from the sentence containing REALIZED.

&quot;Enough lIGHT&quot; at least gives you EIGHT without reordering letters, so it seems a little less arbitrary, though if you follow those rules you can also spell ONE in multiple places.  

It&#039;s hard to draw a meaningful conclusion from these observations at present.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s likely that Manson selected the phrase &#8220;devilry thirty eight&#8221; and worked backwards to a puzzle, and the manner of assembling this phrase makes it seem even less likely. </p>
<p>It does stick out like a sore thumb that you can spell THIRTY and THREE EIGHT in consecutive sentences with some odd wording, but you can actually spell THIRTY with the letters in multiple sentences on this page, and plenty of sentences on other pages.  It&#8217;s just not a rare assemblage of letters.</p>
<p>You can also spell THREE ZERO from the sentence containing REALIZED.</p>
<p>&#8220;Enough lIGHT&#8221; at least gives you EIGHT without reordering letters, so it seems a little less arbitrary, though if you follow those rules you can also spell ONE in multiple places.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to draw a meaningful conclusion from these observations at present.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Room 26 by BoxOfForks</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/room-26/comment-page-3/#comment-23462</link>
		<dc:creator>BoxOfForks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 14:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Considering 38 is part of a Three-Room Oubliette with 22 and 43, this checks out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering 38 is part of a Three-Room Oubliette with 22 and 43, this checks out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on MAZE General Comments by golflover24</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/maze-general-comments/comment-page-13/#comment-23460</link>
		<dc:creator>golflover24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2026 00:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[update: found colourized versions, not sure what to actually do with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>update: found colourized versions, not sure what to actually do with them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Room 42 by Nisuns Nain</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/room-42/comment-page-3/#comment-23458</link>
		<dc:creator>Nisuns Nain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2026 14:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are 4 pairs on the doors: pair of scissors, pair of shakers, pear and pair of dice

pairs = pare S i.e. peel off S

if you remove S from the text on the sign you get &quot;aint that way, inner this way&quot;. &quot;that&quot; is room 22 where the bear is pointing, this is where the bear is nudging, room 4. The guide talks in the story about taking them to the center (room 46) i.e. inner.

The removal of coats, hats and boots also symbolizes paring or peeling off. S is the outer letters of the words &quot;saints&quot; and &quot;sinners&quot; which is removed.

A portrait of bear feet, again alluding to taking things off, as well as focussing on the bear.

&quot;ApPEARed&quot;: pear
&quot;rending&quot;: cut (scissors)
&quot;count on me&quot;: dice
The missing idea in the text is salt and pepper shakers, which is the correct room

Red herring: 4 feet in the frame at the top suggests 4 or also 2 pairs of 2 which would have been 22. The correct solve can be found by noting the removing of coats clue and paring off the letter S, and the bear&#039;s text clarifies the inner isn&#039;t in door 22 that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 4 pairs on the doors: pair of scissors, pair of shakers, pear and pair of dice</p>
<p>pairs = pare S i.e. peel off S</p>
<p>if you remove S from the text on the sign you get &#8220;aint that way, inner this way&#8221;. &#8220;that&#8221; is room 22 where the bear is pointing, this is where the bear is nudging, room 4. The guide talks in the story about taking them to the center (room 46) i.e. inner.</p>
<p>The removal of coats, hats and boots also symbolizes paring or peeling off. S is the outer letters of the words &#8220;saints&#8221; and &#8220;sinners&#8221; which is removed.</p>
<p>A portrait of bear feet, again alluding to taking things off, as well as focussing on the bear.</p>
<p>&#8220;ApPEARed&#8221;: pear<br />
&#8220;rending&#8221;: cut (scissors)<br />
&#8220;count on me&#8221;: dice<br />
The missing idea in the text is salt and pepper shakers, which is the correct room</p>
<p>Red herring: 4 feet in the frame at the top suggests 4 or also 2 pairs of 2 which would have been 22. The correct solve can be found by noting the removing of coats clue and paring off the letter S, and the bear&#8217;s text clarifies the inner isn&#8217;t in door 22 that way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Room 5 by Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2026 15:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I changed my mind.  I&#039;m back to just going back to the room you came from.  I know Vince correctly said, &quot; ... in order to pick up the correct path where you lost it. If you go 1 – 26 -30 – 42 – 37 – 20 – 5, for instance, going to 30 gets you back on track faster than going to 20. &quot;, going back (to 20 in this case) only means you might have to retrace some steps.  Going back never hurts; it&#039;s not wrong, but going forward could be wrong.  You could miss an important path room.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I changed my mind.  I&#8217;m back to just going back to the room you came from.  I know Vince correctly said, &#8221; &#8230; in order to pick up the correct path where you lost it. If you go 1 – 26 -30 – 42 – 37 – 20 – 5, for instance, going to 30 gets you back on track faster than going to 20. &#8220;, going back (to 20 in this case) only means you might have to retrace some steps.  Going back never hurts; it&#8217;s not wrong, but going forward could be wrong.  You could miss an important path room.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Room 5 by Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 16:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“…the more they think about the possibilities the more choices they have to make.”

This has all been said before, but IMO forthright means take the doors on the right, and the center tree divides Room 5 into left and right doors.  The guide is being flippant saying, “the trees are as real as anything else…”, diverting attention away from the significance of the center tree.  Saying, “I encouraged them to take their time” could the devious guide be suggesting they go to Room 30 and take one of the doors indicated by the clock hands, either the door to Room 34 or the door to Room 15, both wrong?

IMO, forthward clueing fourth word, and logically that fourth would be forth”coming” or forth”going”, is most significant.  If you’re “coming” into (toward) the center (Room 45) then take the door to Room 30; if you’re “going” outward from the center (toward Room 1) then take the door to Room 20.  Is it serendipitous that in this room Manson uses the word forth four times, and it’s a path room that has 2 path doors?  Could it be a clue that Room 4 also has 2 doors, coming and going?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…the more they think about the possibilities the more choices they have to make.”</p>
<p>This has all been said before, but IMO forthright means take the doors on the right, and the center tree divides Room 5 into left and right doors.  The guide is being flippant saying, “the trees are as real as anything else…”, diverting attention away from the significance of the center tree.  Saying, “I encouraged them to take their time” could the devious guide be suggesting they go to Room 30 and take one of the doors indicated by the clock hands, either the door to Room 34 or the door to Room 15, both wrong?</p>
<p>IMO, forthward clueing fourth word, and logically that fourth would be forth”coming” or forth”going”, is most significant.  If you’re “coming” into (toward) the center (Room 45) then take the door to Room 30; if you’re “going” outward from the center (toward Room 1) then take the door to Room 20.  Is it serendipitous that in this room Manson uses the word forth four times, and it’s a path room that has 2 path doors?  Could it be a clue that Room 4 also has 2 doors, coming and going?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Room 26 by Dim</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/room-26/comment-page-3/#comment-23454</link>
		<dc:creator>Dim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 02:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there are 3 themes to this room: music, devils and planets. Given the hints regarding silence and &quot;tone&quot; being a distraction, music is probably not it. There are multiple clues towards Saturn, however Saturn -&gt; Atlas is a Riddle clue so it&#039;s probably not related to the door. I think it&#039;s probably as simple as the devils are evil and can&#039;t be trusted, so you shouldn&#039;t open doors they point at (36 for the fake devil and 38 for the real devil,1 is the door you&#039;ve come from)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are 3 themes to this room: music, devils and planets. Given the hints regarding silence and &#8220;tone&#8221; being a distraction, music is probably not it. There are multiple clues towards Saturn, however Saturn -&gt; Atlas is a Riddle clue so it&#8217;s probably not related to the door. I think it&#8217;s probably as simple as the devils are evil and can&#8217;t be trusted, so you shouldn&#8217;t open doors they point at (36 for the fake devil and 38 for the real devil,1 is the door you&#8217;ve come from)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Room 41 by Dim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 00:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe there are 2 primary sets of clues in this room.

The first set is curling. The girl points at her hair (curls) and the horns are wavy/curly. The statue&#039;s face look like curling rings, with the navel (belly button) + button mushrooms giving the word &quot;button&quot; which is what the target in curling is called. Some minor supporting hints from the text: &quot;that wasn’t the point&quot; (could be referring to the center of the target) and &quot;went right on to&quot; could be &quot;right on the button&quot;. This is located by the door 1

The second set of clues is “Who knows where it ends up…” + &quot;but that wasn’t the point&quot;. At every door you see an object with an end obstructed: the ladder at door 35, the tube in background at door 10 and the chute at door 38. Only door 1 is free

And the frog + fly could be just a standalone trap warning]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe there are 2 primary sets of clues in this room.</p>
<p>The first set is curling. The girl points at her hair (curls) and the horns are wavy/curly. The statue&#8217;s face look like curling rings, with the navel (belly button) + button mushrooms giving the word &#8220;button&#8221; which is what the target in curling is called. Some minor supporting hints from the text: &#8220;that wasn’t the point&#8221; (could be referring to the center of the target) and &#8220;went right on to&#8221; could be &#8220;right on the button&#8221;. This is located by the door 1</p>
<p>The second set of clues is “Who knows where it ends up…” + &#8220;but that wasn’t the point&#8221;. At every door you see an object with an end obstructed: the ladder at door 35, the tube in background at door 10 and the chute at door 38. Only door 1 is free</p>
<p>And the frog + fly could be just a standalone trap warning</p>
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