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		<title>By: Firble Man</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/identity-of-the-guide/comment-page-9/#comment-23205</link>
		<dc:creator>Firble Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2025 00:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s right! 
In room 37 the group starts arguing, but then a door rattles and they all stop talking and depart from the room.
There is a door that leads to Room 10 from 37, but not vice-versa.
This can be extrapolated to deduce that the unmarked door in 10 leads to 37. Though it should be noted that 10 has double doors and 37 has single doors.

Also, there is a phone in room 20 which could alternatively be the ringing heard in room 1.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right!<br />
In room 37 the group starts arguing, but then a door rattles and they all stop talking and depart from the room.<br />
There is a door that leads to Room 10 from 37, but not vice-versa.<br />
This can be extrapolated to deduce that the unmarked door in 10 leads to 37. Though it should be noted that 10 has double doors and 37 has single doors.</p>
<p>Also, there is a phone in room 20 which could alternatively be the ringing heard in room 1.</p>
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		<title>By: ron190</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron190</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2025 04:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Minotaur looks obvious as a solution, we can think about it right away before entering room 45, but it fits perfectly.

Though we can review other ideas that can picture an alternative solution for fun and imagination :
- Children should be afraid of the creature&#039;s appearance
- The guide seems not to treat the children as the sacrificial victims
- The children argue with the guide, they even seem to lead the way around the place
- The guide has a crown, the Minotaur has not
- &quot;The answer is concealed somewhere on the shortest path&quot;

All references that are leading around topics about Hell and Paradise :
- Underworld, Cerberus, fire, hot, underground, unlimited darkness, Styx
- sinister, soul, lava, volcano, dark, sacrificial tripod, pentagram, devil, trident, fools, dead trees, ruins
- Eve, apple, tree, angel, nuns, priests, monk, crusades
- Saints and Sinners on the Shortest Path
- Sun/Moon, Day/Night, pictures of young/old

More specifically and taking the notice literally, the letters of the shortest path can form the following figure :
1:H =&gt; 26:A =&gt; 30:D? =&gt; 42 =&gt; 4:E =&gt; 29:S =&gt; 17 =&gt; 45
So the Shortest Path could be the journey from Light to Hell and back with Hades, the King of the Underworld.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Minotaur looks obvious as a solution, we can think about it right away before entering room 45, but it fits perfectly.</p>
<p>Though we can review other ideas that can picture an alternative solution for fun and imagination :<br />
- Children should be afraid of the creature&#8217;s appearance<br />
- The guide seems not to treat the children as the sacrificial victims<br />
- The children argue with the guide, they even seem to lead the way around the place<br />
- The guide has a crown, the Minotaur has not<br />
- &#8220;The answer is concealed somewhere on the shortest path&#8221;</p>
<p>All references that are leading around topics about Hell and Paradise :<br />
- Underworld, Cerberus, fire, hot, underground, unlimited darkness, Styx<br />
- sinister, soul, lava, volcano, dark, sacrificial tripod, pentagram, devil, trident, fools, dead trees, ruins<br />
- Eve, apple, tree, angel, nuns, priests, monk, crusades<br />
- Saints and Sinners on the Shortest Path<br />
- Sun/Moon, Day/Night, pictures of young/old</p>
<p>More specifically and taking the notice literally, the letters of the shortest path can form the following figure :<br />
1:H =&gt; 26:A =&gt; 30:D? =&gt; 42 =&gt; 4:E =&gt; 29:S =&gt; 17 =&gt; 45<br />
So the Shortest Path could be the journey from Light to Hell and back with Hades, the King of the Underworld.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/identity-of-the-guide/comment-page-9/#comment-23002</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2025 01:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Room 4 the Guide says, “What a foolish face.” Obviously referring to himself.  The sculpture is goofy looking, but human with some kind of headdress or crown.  In Room 7 the Guide says the picture on the wall “wasn’t a very good likeness”, picture, not mirror.  Again, he’s referring to a picture of himself.  I think it’s the picture on the lower right of a human wearing a crown, no horns.

I know this has been suggested over the years, but I’m thinking maybe the Guide isn’t the Minotaur, but someone who “feeds” the Minotaur.  Could the guide be Aegues (I’m sure his name had to crop up)? Yes, I drilled around and found King Aegues.  It’s speculated he was adopted, his biological father not being the king who married his mother and adopted him.  He would have worn a crown, and so it wouldn’t be easy to turn his head and see behind him.  His story contains some deception.  He would definitely have had passion and anger (fire in his eyes) bc he had to send seven young women and seven young men each month to feed the Minotaur.  His son Theseus ultimately battled the Minotaur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Room 4 the Guide says, “What a foolish face.” Obviously referring to himself.  The sculpture is goofy looking, but human with some kind of headdress or crown.  In Room 7 the Guide says the picture on the wall “wasn’t a very good likeness”, picture, not mirror.  Again, he’s referring to a picture of himself.  I think it’s the picture on the lower right of a human wearing a crown, no horns.</p>
<p>I know this has been suggested over the years, but I’m thinking maybe the Guide isn’t the Minotaur, but someone who “feeds” the Minotaur.  Could the guide be Aegues (I’m sure his name had to crop up)? Yes, I drilled around and found King Aegues.  It’s speculated he was adopted, his biological father not being the king who married his mother and adopted him.  He would have worn a crown, and so it wouldn’t be easy to turn his head and see behind him.  His story contains some deception.  He would definitely have had passion and anger (fire in his eyes) bc he had to send seven young women and seven young men each month to feed the Minotaur.  His son Theseus ultimately battled the Minotaur.</p>
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		<title>By: vewatkin</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/identity-of-the-guide/comment-page-9/#comment-23000</link>
		<dc:creator>vewatkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2025 03:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you elaborate on the characters you recognize?  I&#039;m intrigued!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you elaborate on the characters you recognize?  I&#8217;m intrigued!</p>
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		<title>By: Vitor</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/identity-of-the-guide/comment-page-9/#comment-22999</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2025 21:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Room 7 has one &quot;portrait&quot; which isnt actually one. Its blank, possibly a mirror.
With horns on top.
Not to mention i recognized several of the portraits as characters from plays/books, suggesting the person on the mirror is one between us and its from some story too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Room 7 has one &#8220;portrait&#8221; which isnt actually one. Its blank, possibly a mirror.<br />
With horns on top.<br />
Not to mention i recognized several of the portraits as characters from plays/books, suggesting the person on the mirror is one between us and its from some story too.</p>
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		<title>By: vewatkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>vewatkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2025 18:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be hilarious if the recurring umbrellas and rain references had to do with The Tempest.

Also, I don&#039;t think you knew this, but Manson&#039;s planned sequel to Maze was named Prospero&#039;s Palace.  (Though it&#039;s unclear whether that referred to the character from the Tempest, from The Masque of the Red Death, or something else.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be hilarious if the recurring umbrellas and rain references had to do with The Tempest.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t think you knew this, but Manson&#8217;s planned sequel to Maze was named Prospero&#8217;s Palace.  (Though it&#8217;s unclear whether that referred to the character from the Tempest, from The Masque of the Red Death, or something else.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mejs</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/identity-of-the-guide/comment-page-9/#comment-22963</link>
		<dc:creator>Mejs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2025 03:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not an expert on Shakespear, and I have not read the Tempest, however after the first read I thought, the Guide is the Caliban, a character from that play.

There are clues pointing, into a storm happening outside of the Maze. 

Fish/tortoise like character, Fish on sign on the Entrance to the Maze (instead of bull, or horns).


Surely, there are more clues pointing at the Minotaur, just something to think about...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not an expert on Shakespear, and I have not read the Tempest, however after the first read I thought, the Guide is the Caliban, a character from that play.</p>
<p>There are clues pointing, into a storm happening outside of the Maze. </p>
<p>Fish/tortoise like character, Fish on sign on the Entrance to the Maze (instead of bull, or horns).</p>
<p>Surely, there are more clues pointing at the Minotaur, just something to think about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: monlette</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/identity-of-the-guide/comment-page-9/#comment-22896</link>
		<dc:creator>monlette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2025 21:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The minotaur seemed obvious to me. 
He describes his parents as one being quite lowborn (bull), the other as &#039;close to a king&#039; (the queen). 
In the room where they remark upon a portrait not being a very good likeness, there is a mirror with horns. 
He speak of indignities done to his father. (Adopted father? Referring to the cuckoldry with the livestock?) 
And speaks of old neighbors. (Icarus and Dedalus?) 
Says people speak of his family but most of the tales are exaggerations. (Meaning he might not actually be recognizable as half bull?) 
Also, the room he said he feels most at home in looks like an animal pen.
Lastly, people were sacrificed to the labyrinth, and it was the job of the minotaur to ensure they didn&#039;t find their way out again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The minotaur seemed obvious to me.<br />
He describes his parents as one being quite lowborn (bull), the other as &#8216;close to a king&#8217; (the queen).<br />
In the room where they remark upon a portrait not being a very good likeness, there is a mirror with horns.<br />
He speak of indignities done to his father. (Adopted father? Referring to the cuckoldry with the livestock?)<br />
And speaks of old neighbors. (Icarus and Dedalus?)<br />
Says people speak of his family but most of the tales are exaggerations. (Meaning he might not actually be recognizable as half bull?)<br />
Also, the room he said he feels most at home in looks like an animal pen.<br />
Lastly, people were sacrificed to the labyrinth, and it was the job of the minotaur to ensure they didn&#8217;t find their way out again.</p>
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		<title>By: vewatkin</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/identity-of-the-guide/comment-page-9/#comment-22844</link>
		<dc:creator>vewatkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 22:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you expound on the devil clues you found?  There certainly seems to be imagery and language suggestive of it, but I wonder what you&#039;ve found.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you expound on the devil clues you found?  There certainly seems to be imagery and language suggestive of it, but I wonder what you&#8217;ve found.</p>
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		<title>By: vewatkin</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/identity-of-the-guide/comment-page-9/#comment-22843</link>
		<dc:creator>vewatkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 22:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not familiar with Satan as a cherub.  Where does that come from?

The cherub is sometimes depicted as a weird monster with bull features, but I&#039;m not seeing it used as a synonym for &quot;bull.&quot;  Can you share your sources?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with Satan as a cherub.  Where does that come from?</p>
<p>The cherub is sometimes depicted as a weird monster with bull features, but I&#8217;m not seeing it used as a synonym for &#8220;bull.&#8221;  Can you share your sources?</p>
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