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	<description>Solving Christopher Manson&#039;s MAZE and the Genre of the Immersive Puzzle</description>
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		<title>By: SuguRose</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/room-30/comment-page-3/#comment-23438</link>
		<dc:creator>SuguRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 23:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you. I felt crazy scrolling past whole essays to find this solution. It’s so simple, alphanumeric notation of the only 3 notable letters, added together. No clue if the author indented this to be a solution but I personally admire the straightforward answer :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. I felt crazy scrolling past whole essays to find this solution. It’s so simple, alphanumeric notation of the only 3 notable letters, added together. No clue if the author indented this to be a solution but I personally admire the straightforward answer :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/room-30/comment-page-3/#comment-23433</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 20:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you go all around the clock with an alphabet, each letter represents a time. C = 3 (o’clock), E = 6 (o’clock), for instance. Keep going, and O = 9, U = 6. 

If we multiply, 9 x 6 = 54.

Now, the “Y” (“why”) is not shown, though Y = 12.

This part is a stretch, but since Y is not shown in letter format, we subtract it. 

So 54 - 12 = 42. 

Just how I figured it out, after the fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you go all around the clock with an alphabet, each letter represents a time. C = 3 (o’clock), E = 6 (o’clock), for instance. Keep going, and O = 9, U = 6. </p>
<p>If we multiply, 9 x 6 = 54.</p>
<p>Now, the “Y” (“why”) is not shown, though Y = 12.</p>
<p>This part is a stretch, but since Y is not shown in letter format, we subtract it. </p>
<p>So 54 &#8211; 12 = 42. </p>
<p>Just how I figured it out, after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 16:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The text makes reference to “the room and all that it contained”, “how many times”, and the capital letters O and U. The letters O and U appear in the room flanking the doorway which the text says is ornately decorated and “meant to influence our decision.”

This motivates us to count up the number of times these letters appear.

Counting the text and the image of the room, the letter O appears 4 times: twice in the text and twice in the room. The letter U appears 2 times: once in the text and once in the room.

Since O appears to the left of U in the room, the clue is 42.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The text makes reference to “the room and all that it contained”, “how many times”, and the capital letters O and U. The letters O and U appear in the room flanking the doorway which the text says is ornately decorated and “meant to influence our decision.”</p>
<p>This motivates us to count up the number of times these letters appear.</p>
<p>Counting the text and the image of the room, the letter O appears 4 times: twice in the text and twice in the room. The letter U appears 2 times: once in the text and once in the room.</p>
<p>Since O appears to the left of U in the room, the clue is 42.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gideon Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2026 06:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The signs are all red herrings, the clock is the solution as indicated by the sign reading &quot;A&quot; in the previous room and the clock having an A on top. Note that the clock unusually has only eight parts, not twelve.

The tree has ten fruit on it, and the game master describes a contestant as &quot;thoughtful&quot; which is a word with ten letters. So you move the hand on the clock forward by ten ticks (moving clockwise) and it results in it pointing towards the correct door. Note it will point to the door better if you visualize the room from a top-down perspective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The signs are all red herrings, the clock is the solution as indicated by the sign reading &#8220;A&#8221; in the previous room and the clock having an A on top. Note that the clock unusually has only eight parts, not twelve.</p>
<p>The tree has ten fruit on it, and the game master describes a contestant as &#8220;thoughtful&#8221; which is a word with ten letters. So you move the hand on the clock forward by ten ticks (moving clockwise) and it results in it pointing towards the correct door. Note it will point to the door better if you visualize the room from a top-down perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: banzai_bill</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/room-30/comment-page-3/#comment-22991</link>
		<dc:creator>banzai_bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2025 18:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The text contains only 4 words with &#039;O&#039; and &#039;U&#039; in them,
and 2 &#039;spaced out&#039; appearences, as they are displayed with the door inbetween.
So, 4 and 2 -&gt; 42

thoughtful
Obviously

‘O’ and ‘U’
for us

confused
through]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The text contains only 4 words with &#8216;O&#8217; and &#8216;U&#8217; in them,<br />
and 2 &#8216;spaced out&#8217; appearences, as they are displayed with the door inbetween.<br />
So, 4 and 2 -&gt; 42</p>
<p>thoughtful<br />
Obviously</p>
<p>‘O’ and ‘U’<br />
for us</p>
<p>confused<br />
through</p>
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		<title>By: Bastian</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/room-30/comment-page-3/#comment-22932</link>
		<dc:creator>Bastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2025 02:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Three letters F = 6, 0 = 15, U = 21 &quot;Add em&quot;
Add them = 42]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three letters F = 6, 0 = 15, U = 21 &#8220;Add em&#8221;<br />
Add them = 42</p>
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		<title>By: vewatkin</title>
		<link>http://www.intotheabyss.net/room-30/comment-page-3/#comment-22886</link>
		<dc:creator>vewatkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 17:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s probably a good illustration of the dangers of unrestricted arithmetical solutions: you can always find something to count or multiply or combine to get the number you want to get.

I noted a solution listed above, about counting F in the text and then multiplying by the etc etc, and even though that was motivated by specific symbols in the room, it was still nonsense that only worked out by coincidence.  

(I only count 41 words in the quotes, incidentally, but I don&#039;t think it matters very much which of us is correct in our counting.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s probably a good illustration of the dangers of unrestricted arithmetical solutions: you can always find something to count or multiply or combine to get the number you want to get.</p>
<p>I noted a solution listed above, about counting F in the text and then multiplying by the etc etc, and even though that was motivated by specific symbols in the room, it was still nonsense that only worked out by coincidence.  </p>
<p>(I only count 41 words in the quotes, incidentally, but I don&#8217;t think it matters very much which of us is correct in our counting.)</p>
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		<title>By: vewatkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>vewatkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 16:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading your comment again, I realize you may have already understood all that--you were just suggesting a reason for why we don&#039;t go the way the puzzle is indicating.

That&#039;s fair enough too--the Eden theme and the discussion of door 34&#039;s elegance speak to the idea of avoiding temptation.  I think there&#039;s a broader theme of &quot;silence&quot; in the book that suggests we don&#039;t want to go the way that the clues point, but it&#039;s not clear how far we can take that, or how many rooms are meant to suggest this to us.

 (Room 1 makes the importance of silence explicit.  Room 26 uses literal devils as clues.  And perhaps this room highlights the danger of temptation.  I&#039;m not sure whether any other rooms along the path suggest this principle, and I&#039;m not sure how many of them even follow it.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading your comment again, I realize you may have already understood all that&#8211;you were just suggesting a reason for why we don&#8217;t go the way the puzzle is indicating.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fair enough too&#8211;the Eden theme and the discussion of door 34&#8242;s elegance speak to the idea of avoiding temptation.  I think there&#8217;s a broader theme of &#8220;silence&#8221; in the book that suggests we don&#8217;t want to go the way that the clues point, but it&#8217;s not clear how far we can take that, or how many rooms are meant to suggest this to us.</p>
<p> (Room 1 makes the importance of silence explicit.  Room 26 uses literal devils as clues.  And perhaps this room highlights the danger of temptation.  I&#8217;m not sure whether any other rooms along the path suggest this principle, and I&#8217;m not sure how many of them even follow it.)</p>
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		<title>By: vewatkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>vewatkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 16:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one of the few puzzles in the book we have a pretty good understanding of--the assemblage of objects in the center of the room indicates &quot;F HOUR TREE,&quot; which is an anagram of THREE FOUR.

That doesn&#039;t mean that the associations you cite aren&#039;t there, though.  Certainly, the IF NO EVE anagram (ONE FIVE)  will create associations with the tree here, and possibly with religious language in the next room, and the devil imagery in the previous room.  It may be that one of the key ways that Manson distracts from the solution to a puzzle is by inserting elements into the room that associate with the puzzle along a different axis than the solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the few puzzles in the book we have a pretty good understanding of&#8211;the assemblage of objects in the center of the room indicates &#8220;F HOUR TREE,&#8221; which is an anagram of THREE FOUR.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean that the associations you cite aren&#8217;t there, though.  Certainly, the IF NO EVE anagram (ONE FIVE)  will create associations with the tree here, and possibly with religious language in the next room, and the devil imagery in the previous room.  It may be that one of the key ways that Manson distracts from the solution to a puzzle is by inserting elements into the room that associate with the puzzle along a different axis than the solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 05:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s fruit from the true of knowledge. If there’s “No Eve”  to tempt Adam then he remains naive.

And the fruit of knowledge is fake so it offers false wisdom.

And the clock is broken making it not a reliable source of information.

Unsure if this all tracks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s fruit from the true of knowledge. If there’s “No Eve”  to tempt Adam then he remains naive.</p>
<p>And the fruit of knowledge is fake so it offers false wisdom.</p>
<p>And the clock is broken making it not a reliable source of information.</p>
<p>Unsure if this all tracks.</p>
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