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	<title>Comments on: The Solution to Manson&#8217;s MAZE: Part IV &#8211; Lesson of the Maze</title>
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		<title>By: vewatkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>vewatkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 17:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was one of many alternate solutions that have been suggested over the years, nearly all of which are more satisfying than &quot;Earth/World/Globe.&quot;  &quot;The Heavens&quot; seems like a pretty darn good answer, relatively.  You have the issue that Atlas bears the heavens in Greek mythology, and the heavens are *not* the abode of dead in that system; you have to kind of insert Christian mythology in there to make it work.  But is that even a problem?  I don&#039;t know.  It&#039;s still better than &quot;Earth/World/Globe,&quot; which is something that 1) Atlas didn&#039;t traditionally bear on his shoulder, and 2) &quot;you&quot; don&#039;t bear on your shoulders.

The other solutions that I recall offhand are &quot;skin&quot; -- we all bear it on our shoulders, and everyone lives inside it.  And some variation of head/mind/brain -- carried on our shoulders (at least, common English expressions suggest that we do), we live inside it in some sense, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was one of many alternate solutions that have been suggested over the years, nearly all of which are more satisfying than &#8220;Earth/World/Globe.&#8221;  &#8220;The Heavens&#8221; seems like a pretty darn good answer, relatively.  You have the issue that Atlas bears the heavens in Greek mythology, and the heavens are *not* the abode of dead in that system; you have to kind of insert Christian mythology in there to make it work.  But is that even a problem?  I don&#8217;t know.  It&#8217;s still better than &#8220;Earth/World/Globe,&#8221; which is something that 1) Atlas didn&#8217;t traditionally bear on his shoulder, and 2) &#8220;you&#8221; don&#8217;t bear on your shoulders.</p>
<p>The other solutions that I recall offhand are &#8220;skin&#8221; &#8212; we all bear it on our shoulders, and everyone lives inside it.  And some variation of head/mind/brain &#8212; carried on our shoulders (at least, common English expressions suggest that we do), we live inside it in some sense, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 23:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it interesting that Atlas, according to mythology, bore not the world but the heavens. I&#039;m far from religious, but it strikes me that heaven could also fit the definition of &#039;a house that all will inhabit&#039; according to some belief systems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that Atlas, according to mythology, bore not the world but the heavens. I&#8217;m far from religious, but it strikes me that heaven could also fit the definition of &#8216;a house that all will inhabit&#8217; according to some belief systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2025 04:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Kiki.
Answering your early question, I dont even know what Blue Prince even is. I&#039;m on my way to find out what it is after i make this post, but color me intrigued if it&#039;s something on the lines of Maze.
I just ended up here because I love things that have unique ideas and are outside the norm, Maze being one such thing that piqued my interest being a book so old but still unsolvable in its entirety. I enjoy collecting those gems for myself, their uniqueness makes for amazing stories behind them.
Other things in my collection are Vermis (book about a game that doesnt exist), House of Leaves (a book that refuses to let u read easily) and The Longing (a game which the win scenario happens after 400 real life days).

Also, about your take on what the book is about, the whole idea behind my original post is precisely that there&#039;s no definitive meaning to the book. Not only because art is what you take from it, but also because i feel like Manson&#039;s intentions do not align with a singular set purpose. The purpose of it is the search itself and the longing for knowing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Kiki.<br />
Answering your early question, I dont even know what Blue Prince even is. I&#8217;m on my way to find out what it is after i make this post, but color me intrigued if it&#8217;s something on the lines of Maze.<br />
I just ended up here because I love things that have unique ideas and are outside the norm, Maze being one such thing that piqued my interest being a book so old but still unsolvable in its entirety. I enjoy collecting those gems for myself, their uniqueness makes for amazing stories behind them.<br />
Other things in my collection are Vermis (book about a game that doesnt exist), House of Leaves (a book that refuses to let u read easily) and The Longing (a game which the win scenario happens after 400 real life days).</p>
<p>Also, about your take on what the book is about, the whole idea behind my original post is precisely that there&#8217;s no definitive meaning to the book. Not only because art is what you take from it, but also because i feel like Manson&#8217;s intentions do not align with a singular set purpose. The purpose of it is the search itself and the longing for knowing.</p>
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		<title>By: Inolien Kiki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inolien Kiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2025 05:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Life already has an oxygen, it’s oxygen!)

I do actually love seeing this interpretation! I can tell you’ve thought about it a lot and I’m glad that Maze connected with you this well. Did you originally come here from Blue Prince? I think you would like that game.

I do sort of wonder what lesson White Raven had in mind, but I wouldn’t put too much stock in it. He has a history of taking Manson’s “well, maybe”s to mean yes, and none of the rest of us have had much contact with him or Manson in quite a while. I guess he came to an interpretation he liked too, even if none of us know what it is.

I don’t really know what Manson meant with the Maze, but for me it’s more a creative inspiration. The art, writing, and aesthetic plays a big factor in making it what it is, to the point where I find it to be the main focus of the book. Something about it sticks with me. I would also say that the meaning is related to the mystery in that way, but I always just end up being impressed by how the book is draped in an intentional vagueness. Perhaps there are answers here, but they are impossible to discern from the noise. I say that in a positive way.

I’ll probably talk more about this sometime later. Thanks for getting me thinking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Life already has an oxygen, it’s oxygen!)</p>
<p>I do actually love seeing this interpretation! I can tell you’ve thought about it a lot and I’m glad that Maze connected with you this well. Did you originally come here from Blue Prince? I think you would like that game.</p>
<p>I do sort of wonder what lesson White Raven had in mind, but I wouldn’t put too much stock in it. He has a history of taking Manson’s “well, maybe”s to mean yes, and none of the rest of us have had much contact with him or Manson in quite a while. I guess he came to an interpretation he liked too, even if none of us know what it is.</p>
<p>I don’t really know what Manson meant with the Maze, but for me it’s more a creative inspiration. The art, writing, and aesthetic plays a big factor in making it what it is, to the point where I find it to be the main focus of the book. Something about it sticks with me. I would also say that the meaning is related to the mystery in that way, but I always just end up being impressed by how the book is draped in an intentional vagueness. Perhaps there are answers here, but they are impossible to discern from the noise. I say that in a positive way.</p>
<p>I’ll probably talk more about this sometime later. Thanks for getting me thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2025 03:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree. It&#039;s not pessimistic at all. It&#039;s life affirming.
I just now got done digesting the book and the wiki as a whole. What a masterpiece.
Humor me for a minute, i&#039;ll try to be brief although this could take me hours if am to really go into it.

What&#039;s the point of life?
I&#039;d point the question back at you. What&#039;s the point of a mystery?
Mysteries are wonderful things. They breathe life into the mundane with new found perspectives and nuance. They make you question your own interpretation of things around you and yourself.
The one bad side of mysteries is precisely when they get solved.
By that point, there&#039;s nothing to be done with it anymore. Nothing more to be seen or derived from. It&#039;s dead.
The world tho... is a never ending mystery. A maze with no solution. Never ending wonder and infinite depth.
&quot;They think I will teach them lessons. They should call me Cerberus…I am the lesson.&quot;
Cerberus is know for being a gate keeper. The guide does much the same here, directing away from solving it completely.
The point isnt the solution, the point is the maze.
Maze&#039;s solution is the world, and it couldnt have been a better answer.
Mystery is life&#039;s oxygen, and I choose to see this book as a tribute to that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. It&#8217;s not pessimistic at all. It&#8217;s life affirming.<br />
I just now got done digesting the book and the wiki as a whole. What a masterpiece.<br />
Humor me for a minute, i&#8217;ll try to be brief although this could take me hours if am to really go into it.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point of life?<br />
I&#8217;d point the question back at you. What&#8217;s the point of a mystery?<br />
Mysteries are wonderful things. They breathe life into the mundane with new found perspectives and nuance. They make you question your own interpretation of things around you and yourself.<br />
The one bad side of mysteries is precisely when they get solved.<br />
By that point, there&#8217;s nothing to be done with it anymore. Nothing more to be seen or derived from. It&#8217;s dead.<br />
The world tho&#8230; is a never ending mystery. A maze with no solution. Never ending wonder and infinite depth.<br />
&#8220;They think I will teach them lessons. They should call me Cerberus…I am the lesson.&#8221;<br />
Cerberus is know for being a gate keeper. The guide does much the same here, directing away from solving it completely.<br />
The point isnt the solution, the point is the maze.<br />
Maze&#8217;s solution is the world, and it couldnt have been a better answer.<br />
Mystery is life&#8217;s oxygen, and I choose to see this book as a tribute to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 23:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The gate you enter the World / Maze by is the same gate you leave through.

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

Find the narrow path. The other gate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gate you enter the World / Maze by is the same gate you leave through.</p>
<p>Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.</p>
<p>Find the narrow path. The other gate.</p>
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		<title>By: neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2025 04:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The prologue suggests the visitors believe the Maze was designed for them—as if it exists to be solved, understood, or to impart wisdom. However, the text flips this perspective, implying that the visitors themselves exist for the Maze. This suggests themes of futility, entrapment, and the illusion of agency.

By stating, “They should call me Cerberus…I am the lesson,” the narrator aligns themselves with the guardian of the underworld, implying that they do not guide the lost but rather ensure they remain trapped.

I think the true lesson of the maze is not one  enlightenment but of existential realization: we are not masters of our fate in the world - we are all subject to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prologue suggests the visitors believe the Maze was designed for them—as if it exists to be solved, understood, or to impart wisdom. However, the text flips this perspective, implying that the visitors themselves exist for the Maze. This suggests themes of futility, entrapment, and the illusion of agency.</p>
<p>By stating, “They should call me Cerberus…I am the lesson,” the narrator aligns themselves with the guardian of the underworld, implying that they do not guide the lost but rather ensure they remain trapped.</p>
<p>I think the true lesson of the maze is not one  enlightenment but of existential realization: we are not masters of our fate in the world &#8211; we are all subject to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Pepe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Pepe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2020 18:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the real meaning is not everything is as it seems yet everything is as it seems. Sometimes we get caught up in minute details and miss what matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the real meaning is not everything is as it seems yet everything is as it seems. Sometimes we get caught up in minute details and miss what matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Anchorperson Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anchorperson Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This theory seems to be a non-starter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This theory seems to be a non-starter.</p>
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		<title>By: William McLaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>William McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2018 04:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Polybius square - Dante&#039;s Mystical number - Elgar&#039;s Enigma]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polybius square &#8211; Dante&#8217;s Mystical number &#8211; Elgar&#8217;s Enigma</p>
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