" What is that horn supposed to be? "

" Like a biiiird on a riiiing Like a fiddle that's missing a striiing I have triiiiiied To solve roooooom Thirty-three "

" Is there any remote chance it was drawn to be a cygnet? Is it really meant to look like any bird or is it just there to make us think of "bird on a ring?" Maybe I should show it to someone who can identify... "

" That's definitely irrelevant. And, as much as I'm bothered by the details of this bird, there is NOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAY IN HEEEEEEEEELL this was meant to be identified as a one-winged bird. "

" Ooh, this is interesting: A jian bird is a one-winged bird from Chinese mythology that is associated with marriage (basically, to fly, two jian birds have to find each other- 2 jian birds, 2 wings). Marriage? Rings? Mm... "

" Maybe there's some relevant story out there about a bird with one wing? "

" Something like this incident occurs in The King Must Die; I didn't realize that there was a mythological inspirational for it. As I look at some descriptions of the myth now, some simply describe the ring as a "signet ring," which makes me want to... "

" Huh... but why would there be a bird on the ring if he was cluing in that myth? "

" The ring and crown also have significance in the Theseus/Minotaur myth. "There was a dispute between Minos and Theseus over the parentage of Theseus. In Crete, Minos molested one of the maidens and Theseus became angry and challenged him, boasting of his parentage by Poseidon.... "

" Thank you so much!! I probably could've taken more time with them but I guess they were just practice. And yeah, Manson's work is simply breathtaking. If I do draw full rooms I am going to go to different places/angles of his rooms, like with... "

" Ooh, these are nice! Can't wait to see the full rooms if you do those someday ^_^ Manson was kinda my idol for drawing when I was younger, since we've owned Maze as long as I can remember. I never got even the slightest bit... "

" Maze sketches from today and yesterday: ibb dot co slash MPkKRnm The clock from Room 10 and a skeleton in front of it. ibb dot co slash 8BjXW4J The Guide in a pool of water in Room 19. This one was fun to draw. I... "

" Because of some folk tale I remember but it's probably not that "

" Or more like "dachshund get..." "

" I like it "

" The bird on the ring makes me think of "swallow ring" and swallowing a ring... or something... "

" It's still good fun in the end though. Putting together the pitcher and the wagon was such a rush, I couldn't wait to post about that. There IS an answer to most questions, and Manson's puzzles seem solvable, it's just the trial of, you know,... "

" I think it’s an oculus, an alternative name for which is a bull’s eye. "

" "The very small hole, high above, that admitted a feeble light", could be what is known as a “dream hole” like those in an opening left in the wall of a steeple, tower, barn, etc; to allow light to enter. "

" Yeah, it doesn't look enough like a water bird to plausibly be a cygnet. Water birds have pretty distinguishable body types as compared to songbirds, and while there is no detail here that lets us determine what exact kind of bird this might be, it... "

" Also, remember to take anything we say about figuring out Maze with a grain of salt, because we've been working in it pretty hardcore for the last six or seven years and have come up with pretty close to nothing. Or, worse than nothing: a... "

" Does it not permit the interpretation because it doesn't look like a swan? I mean... it could look more like a cygnet than a full-grown swan... kindaa... "

" I think the circle is, like, the bird's stomach/chest plume, like how it's usually a different color than the rest of the bird "

" Thank you. Trying to "solve" a room has been so vastly different than how I imagined it- fun, but frustrating... "

" Also, trumpets have bells, which connects to the ring. (Trumpet sounds may also be described as "ringing.") "

" Maybe the ugly duckling in Room 7 is becoming a swan in flight in here. (Too bad it doesn't look anything like a swan.) "

" I've thought about connecting the trumpet with the ring to get "brass ring" before. It sort of makes sense to interpret the trumpet as "brass" since we have the major sections of the orchestra represented in the room. "

" Brainstorming and following leads even if you ultimately abandon them is a great way to come up with new ideas! If you edit yourself too much you'll never end up saying anything. No reason for you to feel foolish in my opinion. "

" Maybe it's the cygnet of a trumpeter swan. "

" It sure is easy to get carried away :( I feel like a fool for trying to bridge obtuse details together "

" Yeah, I get it. That makes more sense to me than anything previously suggested. "

" Like, I'm trying to say that's ALL the aulos/fiddle pair is giving us: the word agon. Does that make sense? "

" It's pretty hard to describe without picture references. It probably doesn't matter anyway, if every sees an unequivocal bird. Although: there's a small circle on the bird right above what I take to be its stick legs. What is that? "

" What non-bird details did you have in mind? "

" So maybe pitcher = flagon (clued with wagon) Aulos = agon (clued with fiddle) "

" How certain are we that that's a bird on that ring? It looks like a bird...but when I start to examine it critically, there are details I can't make sense of. I guess maybe it has to be a bird. I keep wanting it to... "

" I was deliberating on the purpose of the symbols and then it hit me! So, Marsyas and Apollo's competition was an agon, like Vince said. The pitcher and wagon is meant to give us the word "flagon," while the aulos and strings are simply meant... "

" And try not to worry- I can't promise I won't make dumb theories but I'll also try to accept when I'm wrong. A wineskin is not a flagon, especially when the flagon was emphasized to be a flagon specifically. I guess I just really, REALLY... "

" But why is the Marsyas thing even there?? If it is there? Why add a symbol about him if it doesn't constitute some part of the puzzle, unless it does... then why add a flagon that has nothing to do with it?? "

" You're right, you're right, Manson could have just drawn a wineskin if he wanted to... nobody draws a flagon to symbolize a wineskin... ughhhhhh... a flagon is NOT a wineskin..... "

" YOU BROKE MY HEART "

" I had such hope for you. "

" I still think the flagon might just be representative of the wine flask Marsyas was to be used for. A pitcher could mean a lot of things, but a flagon is more strictly a wine flask, more than a pitcher in representation. Would the wineflask/skin... "

" They could, it's a relevant observation regarding a reasonable line of inquiry. I was just noting that the ringer positioning serves one function even if we don't have reason to think it serves another. I have no objection to people noting patterns and themes without... "

" I think the bell/ring references could have relevance. They seem to be placed at focal points of the book. The beginning of the Maze (1) The beginning of the correct path (26) The ending of the correct path (20) The ringing is heard, starts (in... "