MAZE General Comments

For saying something.

This and that.

 - Image copyright 1985 by Christopher Manson

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  1. Is the quote “Like Atlas, you bear it on your shoulders”, a cross reference to the line from William Shakespeare’s “Hamlet” which says, “They bore him barefaced on the bier”? Act IV Scene 5 Page 8 – which coincidently, is similar to the number 45 (act 4, scene V) .

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  2. What if people here created a “community sequel” to Maze, with everyone who wanted to contributing a room or several? I’m sure people besides me have sketched out “fan rooms” of the Maze. Thoughts?

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    • I think if you (or anyone) got this ball rolling that others would certainly jump on board, but you (or someone) would have to be prepared to put in some serious managerial labor, and account for several difficulties in pushing the project forward. (E.g. everyone here is a nutcase with insane ideas.)

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    • It likely wouldn’t be too hard to manage, as only three people are active on this site. :)

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    • Thank you, vewatkin.

      docs (dot) google (dot) com (slash) presentation/d/1sVX2QZmx1rV4Mx7GMEXuibv1udBqMTJine9yZq-_0oo/edit?usp=sharing

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    • Is that the full puzzle? It makes reference to 45 rooms but stops at 16, unless I’m missing a COOL SECRET to unlock the rest.

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    • No, I just didn’t have the patience to make 45 rooms, although I might someday. I numbered the rooms 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11, 16, 19, etc. based on just whim. There’s no real rhyme or reason.

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  3. When MANSON states that “like ATLAS, you bear it on your shoulders”, the flip side suggests it sounds like ‘shoal doors’, where a school of fish could be defined as going towards the entrance of the MAZE. And at the same time, I think this could also be a triple entendres, i.e. ‘should ders’ would then become ‘ders should’. And I know this may seem preposterous, but I had the notion that ‘ders should’ could be hinting towards “Dr. Scholl’s” (footwear) or perhaps ‘ders should’ could mean “this shield”. However, I’m not quite sure if ATLAS held his heir back as if it were some kind of testudo.

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  4. To: Vewatkin
    Well, I don’t mean to pull out all the stops, but why would queue be lunarcy?
    From: W.B.M.

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  5. דוב – The shape of the umbrella’s head makes for an obvious inclination, as to what the first and last letters presented here symbolize. B

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    • “When you need something to be true, you will look for patterns; you connect the dots like the stars of a constellation. Your brain abhors disorder. You see faces in clouds and demons in bonfires. Those who claim the powers of divination hijack these natural human tendencies. They know they can depend on you to use subjective validation in the moment and confirmation bias afterward.”
      - David McRaney

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  6. “Like Atlas, you bear it on your shoulders.” – I think the answer is within the first two words of this sentence and the hint is within the last six. If you put the first two words together after you take out the letter “k” (which could also signify a “key” clue) , rearrange the letters lieatlas, it will then sound like “sat a lite” or “satellite”. On top of that, if you bear it on your shoulders, then I would consider that to be, “On your shoulders, there sat a light (love of my life; child ( son? ) ) , along with the fact that the first known use of the word “satellite” was in 1 5 4 8. The numerical value of each individual number equals to A E D H or H E A D. “ Use ‘your head’ ?” I suppose that what you need to take with you, would be the letter “r” ( you + r = your ) ; your head. And with “k” being the eleventh letter of the alphabet, I’m guessing that it could be construed as ( in part ) the shape of the MAZE’s entrance. B

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  7. @ vewatkin – You know, I was thinking what the following clues “With out God, Life would be like a MAZE without a clue”, “Take that with you”, and “Isn’t it/looking through the obvious?” and figured that MANSON was stating that, with God life would be a gift. And the name/word “Iyos” means “Gift of God”. In my opinion, I believe the abyss, to be an analogy of the word nothing, since nothing is greater than God.

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  8. “Like Atlas, you *bear it on your* shoulders.” – (translation) – *Baritenor* [Inner Voice] ‘Shoulders’ when rearranged, spells out ‘El **shrouds’. Numerical value of E + L = 5 + 12. 5 + 12 = 17. 17th letter of the alphabet is “ Q “ , which I’m assuming is a visual cue, for someone who is singing. 1 + 7 = 8, which when placed horizontally, displays a set of ‘eyes’; as well as the number and letter E3. Baritenors’ have been used during theatrical performances, such as Shakespeare’s “Othello”. – ‘Desdamona’s has requested that she be **shrouded in her wedding sheets if she should die.’ Which hints at, what is also referred to as forereshadowing. And that is what we (U and I) have both been trying to get at, I believe…

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    • What are you doing with this stuff? Are you suggesting Manson intended this line of associations?

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  9. I’ve just a few brief inquiries this time around, as I’ve been unable to spot anything else of a notable value, as of late. 1.) If this is not really a book, would it then be a boobook, which is another name for an owl? 2.) “Like Atlas, you bear it on your shoulders.” – Is this a reference to the Atlas Obscura? 3.) “They failed to see the real sign while looking through the obvious.” – Is the real sign, which they failed to see, a telltale sign looking through the tell-all talebearer’s tale?

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  10. Is there a connection between the beater on the title page and the drum from page 1?

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  11. @vewatkin Is there any clue as to why the jar, which is gone on the book’s cover, reappears during the “ Prologue “ ? Or is there some kind of an esoteric argot involved here as well? B

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    • The cover image of the entrance differs from the prologue in a number of ways which I suspect are design choices.

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  12. “They failed to see the real sign, while looking through the obvious.” – I think this is more of a statement and less of a dilemma. Because I’m assuming that the real “ sign “ could quite possibly be phonetic in nature. And a phonetic sign is more likely to be heard from listening to the “ symbology “ involved, than it is to be seen by looking through the obvious. B

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    • Or it could be an ethereal sign of an unseen character, while looking through the fourth wall. Might have something to do with chirality, from a phonetic introspective.

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  13. Does the herring on the Book’s cover and the extended width above the entrance to the Prologue, relate to any connections between that of the Herring King and Sir Francis Bacon?

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    • Can elaborate on this connection? Bacon’s use of the king herring image seems interesting, though the sources I found upon a brief googling included low res pictures and somewhat unclear explication of the subject.

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  14. @vewatkin – Well, the room that I’m talking about (according to the Gide) , is the one without a ceiling or a floor. B

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    • Does it contain a Y or a psi? It’s not clear what you’re talking about. The only room referred to as having no floor is 33, but it doesn’t seem to have any clear Y or psi in it, and also doesn’t talk about looking through the obvious.

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    • @vewatkin – I discovered the symbol for the “ psi “ on the far right side of your website’s title page. Would you mind clueing me in as to why the word “ faith “ is written upside down to the right of the hering, on the book’s cover? B

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    • I don’t see the “faith” where you describe. I’m not sure what you’re talking about with the psi, neither what website you mean nor why a hidden symbol on that website provides a solution to the book.

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  15. Would the sign while looking through the obvious, be the “ Y “ looking sign, while looking through a two way mirror? Got the idea from reading about “Mise en abyme” which is derived from heraldry and translates to as being “placed into abyss”.

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  16. @vewatkin My bad, bro. If my arbitrational requitals seem to be a moot and forlorn topic, IAM sorry. I just thought that Jupiter Optimus Maximus had something to do with the woodrow that can be found in room 45, as the mirrored initials J.O.M. when reversed spell out rOW. I guess Joopidoor, doesn’t have any meaning either, right? B

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  17. @avert -“My crown, my pain, the fire in my eyes.” Is “my crown” (MAZE) a reference to the Temple of Jupiter Optimus Maximus, which is said to have had a wooden based structure? Does “my pain” allude to the structure that turns into petrified stone? Could “the fire in my eyes” correlate to the light that’s filtering in through the windows from the clerestory? B

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    • Are there any relevant similarities between the line you’re quoting and the thing you’re asking whether it’s in reference to?

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  18. If “my body is a temple” as the old adage goes, then would the MAZE be the body of the (minotaur) guide? Also, is the entrance (cover) supposed to be another version of the pi symbol which has a tittle (dot) above the door in the eye socket? This variant pi symbol looks like a cross between an inverted “ j “ (umbrella), and the letter “ t “, with a tittle (dot) above it. B

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  19. Is the books cover in reference to the defined meaning from the Tower of Babel? My idea behind this inquiry came from the the word “ by “ and the face of a bull which I have been able to discern more clearly by rotating the book 90 degrees in a clockwise direction. And is the “I AM” from room 45, have anything to do with the latin translation of the word “obvious” which is Obviam? B

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