Room 37

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…a long, open room with no roof.

“What is going on here?” they wondered.

“Sometimes, important messages are couched in ambiguous terms,” I said. “That net may help you catch the answer to your question.”

They looked doubtful. “We must look at this from all sides before we make a decision.” At last, they were learning.

They really couldn’t decide which way to go; half of them wanted to go one way, half another. They were close to splitting up when there was a rattling sound and one of the doors was shaken from the other side.

They all stopped talking and moved closer together. They soon agreed on a direction and we departed for…

  - Images and text copyright 1985 by Christopher Manson
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Room Type:  PATH     Doors:  10  15  20  42


● The correct door is 20. [Credit: Unknown - during the 1985 contest.]

● The part of the Riddle of the Path in this room has been surmised to be “E” either from the five on the dice (“E” is the fifth letter of the alphabet) or by seeing an “E” in the rope ladder. [Credit: Unknown - prior to 1990.]

● The correct door is 20. This is shown on the dice which has a 2 and a blank. The blank being a zero. [Credit: Raphael Vanier] In the text the Guide says, “That net may help you….” The shadow of the net provides us the missing zero from the blank side of the dice. [Credit: White Raven]

● The ladder, the lack of roof, and the line in the text about looking at things from all sides encourages us to look down on the room. From the top down the various objects of the room look like zeros which go with the blank on the dice to make 20 – the number of the correct door. [Independent Credit: SP / vewatkin | White Raven] The eyes looks like zeros. [Independent Credit: vewatkin | White Raven]

● The zero from the shadow of the net (see above) combined with the two table legs (it encircles one) gives us 20. [Independent Credit: vewatkin | White Raven] The zero from the shadow of the net is connected via a lighter shadow to the net itself, the rim of which looks like a zero. The shadow zero encircles a table leg suggesting a 1. The net has a long handle suggesting a 1. 10 + 10 = 20. [Credit: SP]

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153 thoughts on “Room 37

  1. I’m going to have to agree with sock puppet, about agreeing with Ursula. After all, she did say that I was wright.

    • Why am *I* the sock puppet? I’m the one who showed his face on a hundred hours of MazeCast! Accuse “her* of being a puppet! (Then she can come on MazeCast to clear her name; everyone’s a winner.)

    • Yeah, but I already accused you of being a sock puppet on the other page. First mover advantage.

      I’ve still never even *seen* an episode of MazeCast. I should probably listen to those someday.

    • You just reminded me to watch the newest episode! The shoutout surprised me ahahaha.
      On the blue-balling from me: I genuinely lost access to the account. But it’s probably for the best because it deteriorated from a compilation to a ytp. Did you really want to see Hello Gregor singing despacito?
      Maybe you do. Fine. I’ll put in the legwork. I’ll call to get the account reactivated and get the dang ytp. The intotheabyss christmas present. This will truly be the next top ten solutions video.

    • I feel virtually certain that we have, but it’s not worth rewatching MazeCast episodes to confirm.

      Although, “shoutout” implies a laudatory context; being acknowledged as part of the Maze community is at best commiseration.

    • (Waiting for Kon-tiki to pop up: “Actually, in episode 47, you specifically used the term ‘shoutout’ in reference to the solution offered by….”)

    • I first interacted with the abyss in late 2019 and this morning I watched every episode start-to-finish from between then and now, because I might as well. YES IT IS FUN FOR ME. I AM AN UNIRONIC MAZECAST FAN.

  2. When it says – “That net may help you catch the answer to your question.” – Which of the three nets was it referring to?

    • A net, is a two-dimensional shape that can be folded to form a three-dimensional shape or a solid. When the surface of a three-dimensional figure (cubes, cones, prisms, pyramids) is laid out flat showing each face of the figure, the pattern obtained is a net.

    • Fascinating. Unfortunately, this has precisely no bearing on the shapes in this room, as it is impossible to flatten a sphere, the cone is unmarked, and the net of the dice would yield *less* information than their cubic form (as we would no longer be able to learn anything from their orientation.)

      This particular suggestion was almost comprehensible after the clarification, though. Keep it up.

    • One of the nets that can be obtained from the 6 sided die looks exactly like a capital T, which is the 20th letter of the alphabet (20th letter = room 20).

    • Why was it necessary to put this into two different comments?

      Anyway, you’re not wrong, but…


      …I actually have nothing else to say here. This is about as reasonable as most of our “accepted” solutions (that is to say, barely at all, but still comprehensible.)


      Good job. I’m going to go off and ruminate on the fact that I just said that to you. What has reality become?

    • 3D objects are not nets, though, which makes your implication that there were three nets in the room not cryptic but simply false.

      I agree with Alyssa that this is an Abyss-grade solution (that is, not a plausibly intended one, but one that draws a tangential connection between a door number and something in the room), and it was worth mentioning by community standards at least. That’s intended to be damnation by faint praise, but hey, faint praise isn’t the worst reaction you can get.

    • @sockpuppet(vewatkin) Do you have proof that 3D objects are not nets? If so, please email me, otherwise that which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

    • 3D objects have nets, they are not in themselves nets. “A net is a two-dimensional pattern of a three-dimensional figure that can be folded to form the figure.”
      Hmm. You know I actually find this kind of interesting, but I don’t know what you want to take out of it. Uh…. spheres don’t have nets? Idk

    • situation where this would make more sense: un-nettable objects in front of every door except for the correct one

    • I guess 3D objects can be nets in the sense of a mesh tool for catching things. My apologies.

  3. Again, I hope I am not going over old ground. But the explanations for door 20 so far seem a bit sketchy, from what I have seen. If you take the two dice as metaphors for the group mentioned in the text, the group apparently is split as to where to go next. Also, each die individually points to the wrong doors. The first one shows 10 or 15. The second one, adding 1+3=4 plus 2 indicates 42. Only when the group ‘comes together’ or two dice are used, the tops of each die produces 20, the right door. In addition, the pattern of the netting in the net looks similar to the rope ladder, and the text also says the net holds the answer to the question. Hope these thoughts are useful and give a new perspective.

    • Getting 10 and 15 out of the front die is neat, but couldn’t you just as well get 15 out of the farther-back die? You take 1 as the tens digit and (2+3)=5 as the ones digit. It’s as good as getting 42 by your method, which makes it feel like a rather weak clue if that was Manson’s intention.

    • The 1, 2 and 3 could also signify 15, as you say. That is just another wrong door indicated by the single die. Also, it is always the top numbers that count when dice are rolled. So 20 is the only meaningful answer.

  4. I am new to all this, but I have a thought on where the E comes from. Hope I am not repeating things. All the figures in this picture end with E, circle, sphere,bottle, vase, cone, die/dice, table. There are eyes on the top of each column. The net has been mentioned here as catching the answer – E, which is the middle letter of net. And the group says they should look at things from all sides., which could indicate the end of each word. So for all the obscure clues in the MAZE puzzle, this one seems pretty clear to me. Although in 35 years I can’t be the first to have thought of this???

  5. You know, aside from what 2 die represent, it can also be compared to another interpretation of the $ symbol, or whatever clause that it may leave behind . . .

    • So anyways, what I was getting at, was that the total amount of pips on a 6 sided die is equal to 21. But if the number 21 is reversed to resemble the number 51 and the number 1 is overlaying the number 5, then the interconnection of the number 5 and the number 1 will look like the symbol of a dollar bill ( $ ) .

    • The number 51 ( as I have mentioned from before) (5 = E) + (1 = A) equals to EA, which theoretically could stand for Epsilon Alpha or maybe even something like Non ( no 1 ) Euclidean Axis or just Euclidean Axis by itself.


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