" Yeah, basically the only actual harms that come from this are the spamming of people's inboxes if they have comment notifications on and the potential burying of comments we would want to refer to. "

" Eh, no one else is posting anything relevant at the moment, and at least the malicious trashpiling is transparently irrelevant, which saves a little time compared to his usual posts. "

" Well, after something like 3-5 years of nearly ruining everything, it looks like he's finally gone ahead and completely ruined everything. Guess I should have joined the site earlier. :-( "

" Please, please, please stop "

" like that rabbit who keeps stealing my cereal that's what I call some "hare"-raising information "

" New to this website. Spent months at a time as a kid figuring out the puzzles. Managed to find the path by myself, but not the riddle. Not even close. Was blown away by the sheer amount of amazingly complex discoveries that have been made... "

" ????? "

" yeah but all dogs are cool and so is vewatkin and that's the end of the story "

" But I tell ya, I tell ya, I don't get no respect, no respect at all. I said to my wife the other day, my wife, oh boy, I said, "Honey, this house has too many animals, too many animals for a proper house." She... "

" Imagine a Let's Play Maze series. And as per the convention of Let's Plays of cryptic games, the titles would all be obvious pieces of lore that the player was completely shocked at uncovering. Let's Play MAZE #582 - THE GUIDE IS EVIL! Let's Play... "

" The Guide's GRUESOME SECRET??? We found the Maze IRL??? (Gone wrong) "

" Oh god, it's like what happened to Petscop. I both pray that this does and that this does not happen. "

" had a dream some popular creator on youtube made a video on maze, and this site got a ton of attention to the point where dozens of new people were commenting in short periods of time, it was chaos "

" Well now he's not even trying to tie his article choices into any actual argument. Unless he's trying to claim Vewatkin is the Guide (PLOT TWIST) "

" Just a quick note to say that the Ask Manson page is still up. It's accessible from the right-hand menu but not the top menu. :) (Or maybe you meant that it was defunct in the sense that WR is no longer asking Manson questions... "

" Now *that* is interesting. Now I'm even *more* confused as to his goals in posting here. "

" I did some googling and found that a surprisingly high amount of WBM's posts are just copied and pasted from elsewhere. Not just recently, but going way back. Most of these originate from either Wikipedia articles or online dictionary entries (and of course elsewhere on... "

" His self-imposed term of involvement expired in 2016 (although I think he was also experiencing some serious health issues at the time), but he posted at least a couple of times after that. His last post that I'm aware of was on March 1st, 2017,... "

" When was the last time WR interacted here at all though? I'm pretty sure it was before I joined. I don't think they care anymore. "

" Has anyone considered reaching out to WR about him? His behavior over the last week or two has escalated to just plain spamming, which is almost universally recognized as grounds for being banned from any forum. "

" I don't think he IS copying from something. Nobody except WBM would just write "quest scions" and then move on without any explanation. "

" That's fair. I'm just trying to emphasize that the route to those rooms is completely consistent with the rules you've been using up until now. "

" I think he's just copying something and putting my name in it. None of this is describing anyone's actual behavior on the site, however generously viewed; nobody is requesting "evidence" (whatever that would mean, in the context of Maze) or clamoring for a debate; nobody... "

" So what, he's Ben Shapiro? "

" "No imaginative interpretation" is maybe slightly misleading. I'd say that reaching that clump of rooms requires some imaginative... observation, I guess is the best word? "

" You've made a key observation, but the conclusion is incorrect. There is a way to access those rooms, within the rules of the book--no cheating, no imaginative interpretation, no walking through unmarked doors. "

" I'm fairly certain I never said I saw a bull on the front cover. "

" curious how nobody seems to be complaining about this except you, "

" A "Turk's Turban" is a type of gourd... "

" "... and they had no coins." People without a coin are unable to pay Charon to ferry them across the River Styx, and they will wander the underworld hopelessly. "

" That just sounds like... being polite? "

" I don't know that this actually is an allusion; we already just called that guy a Turk or said he was wearing a turban, so we could have another T word to go with the theme of T-things in the room, which we also can't... "

" Interesting. Is there a point to this allusion, though? I don't see any meaningful way for this to connect to... well, anything, even in an ultimately meaningless way (like the shaft/shaft connection you mentioned earlier on this page.) "

" See "The Tortoise Trainer," a 1906/1907 painting by Osman Hamdi Bey, featuring a man in Ottoman attire, similar to the fellow pictured in room 20, training tortoises. "

" "You’ve spent months upon months doing nothing but floundering about with hidden meanings..." It's been way longer than months. When I first discovered the abyss in 2018 it was already littered with his comments. "

" "Here’s an idea. If you see something that you don’t agree with, then don’t respond to it." A lot of the time that's what happens... other times, we ask you once you mean, and give our two cents. Other other times, you respond to an... "

" I said I saw a bull on the front cover? Did that really happen? Your question may be rhetorical, William, but I think that, yes, part of the reason for suggesting things here is so that people can tell you they disagree and why. "

" For a second I thought we were on room 43 and you were doing some post-irony thing pfffft "

" Where, I ask, knowing the answer is almost certain to be more confusing than had I never asked? "

" Although, I guess it's a presumption, perhaps an unmerited one, that we're to rely on the bear for our directions. The sign itself is partway inside the door to 30, so maybe the natural reading of "this way" is that it refers to 30. "

" "Saints that way" presumably refers to the "pair o' dice"--ok, fair enough. That means "sinners this way" refers to the other direction--but does it refer to 30, 22, or both? 30 has the fruit tree and the mention of Eve--that is, suggestion of the Garden... "

" We only see one bowl, but the text indicates there are two of them. If this is true of the bowls, why not also of candlesticks, stethoscopes, Punchinellos and barber's poles - all of which have 12 letters when in the plural form. "

" and mine about bearing it on our shoulders and still being subjugated to this abyss or all that from when i first joined. honestly maze is unique in the reaction it inspires "

" This reminds me of my *own* breakdown comment about how we're all still trapped in Maze and the ultimate meaning of the entire book is that the reader can never escape. Good memories. Nice to have new blood around here! Always fun. "

" Hi El! Welcome to the abyss! That's a really nice way to put it, I guess we're all sort of suffering from stockholm syndrome with the book. I hope you have a good time here. Recent readers are actually kind of rare(?) so fresh takes... "