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…a bright room whose walls were in some disrepair. The floorboards creaked and groaned; the plaster made a gritty sound.
They studied the old frescoes for clues but missed the obvious signs.
“Are we on the right path?” they asked.
Keeping in mind what a relative term “right” is, I assured them they were, indeed, on the right path. As for the “correct” path or the “most appropriate” path…. Well, that might be something else.
Full of confidence now they marched out to…
- Images and text copyright 1985 by Christopher Manson
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Room Type: PATH Doors: 12 22 29
Solution Summary: [COLLECTION CURATED BY WHITE Raven. SEE COMMENTS FOR ADDITIONAL SOLUTION PROPOSALS.]
● The spear and staff war banners both point towards the Frescos and stand next to doors 12 & 22. The humble broom points to 29 – which is the correct door. [Independent Credit: Hello Gregor | White Raven]
● The text reads, “”Are we on the right path?” they asked. Keeping in mind what a relative term “right” is, I assured them they were, indeed, on the right path. As for the “correct” path or the “most appropriate” path…. Well, that might be something else.” The reference to right being relative draws attention to the bear, the door to the bear’s right, which the bear’s right arm is pointing at, is the “right” (as in “correct”) door. [Independent Credit: Aria | White Raven] The bear combined with the to-the-right riddle gives us “bear right” (from the point of view of the bear) as a way of phrasing the solution. [Credit: Dave G] The bear is looking upward at a ship/boat in the mural, suggesting travel, or more simply, “go.” This connection is reinforced by the accumulation of items in the room starting with the letter “B” (bench, box, banner, backdrop, bear) which helps us find the Boat. (See solution at bottom for a possible addition to this solution.) [Independent Credit: Vewatkin | White Raven]
● The first words of the text are “…a bright room…” “bright room” is a spoonerism of “right broom” the broom is both pointing at the right (as in correct) door and is also to the bear’s right (as described in the solution above). [Credit: SP]
● The symbol and the Byzantine art in the center panel suggest that the topic of the murals is Constantinople which was Byzantine and used this symbol as its coat of arms (see related images), by extension, the figure in the center likely represents Constantine I or Constantine XI. [Independent Credit: Vewatkin | White Raven (for the significance of the symbol)] [Independent Credit: Aria | White Raven (for significance of the art)] The left panel shows the Constantinople soldiers in battle with the Turks, a battle which was lost resulting in the name of the city being changed to Istanbul. [Independent Credit: Aria | White Raven] There are two good ways of interpreting the rest of the puzzle:
The Fall of Constantinople Solution: All three panels are about the one of the most significant and horrific battles in history the fall of Constantinople. The left panel represents either the escape of the surviving leaders of Constantinople (sans Constantine IX who died), or the flight of several hundred soldiers before the battle began, who snuck out of the city at night and left by ship. Either way the solution to this riddle is to escape from the disaster of the fall of Constantinople by taking the ship. The bear looks to the boat (end of the trail of “B”s in the solution above) to emphasize the route of escape. [Credit: White Raven]
The History of Constantinople Solution: The left panel represents the city when it was called Byzantium by illustrating a significant event from that time period, the saving of the city by the appearance of a bright light or moon summoned by the three-person-in-one goddess Hecate. The center panel with its Byzantine style art represents Constantinople. The right panel represents the fall of Constantinople and therefore the transition to the city being named Istanbul. So the panels represent Byzantium, Constantinople, and Istanbul respectively. “Byzantine” panel is the end of the trail of “B”s (see solution above) and is therefore the correct choice. [Credit: Aria]
2 more answers
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.9.
Several rooms have the correct way to go denoted with ambi-anagrams of “way” ( I.e.
way / wey / may / mey / hem / ham / hew / haw
yaw / yew / yam / yem / haw / hew / hay / hey )
(Additionally, bad doors can get homophones of these words (e.g. your/you’re/weigh are at bad doors))
The bear looks up at ship with flags showing wind. This symbolises “bear up” which means turning to wind.
This type of turn is “yaw”, an ambi-anagram of “way”, so this mural is on correct door.
Since its a mural its a drawing of yaw. “drawyaw” is “wayward” backwards and we are looking for the hidden way-ward/word in rooms.
In room 14 guide says “I knew she would bear watching” – its referring to this bear, about the word “way”/”yaw” and it’s letters.
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.10.
In both rooms with horse: the correct door is left. “haw” is one of the ambi-anagram words and it is the horse command for “turn left”. (“gee” is right).
In the mural over right door the command the horse is following is “back”, indicating wrong door.
This horse here is doing a “pesade”. There is a hidden “horse” in room 27 with a spade which has a puzzle involving the sound of the letter “e”.
SPADE + E = PESADE
This ends up being a hint or reinforcement of intent
8 new answers
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1.
The bear looks up at boat. To “bear up” in nautical terms means to turn the bow into the wind. The boat has flags drawn showing the wind direction. Turning that way will take you to room 29.
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2.
“made a gritty sound” = spoonerism. You eat grits with spoon. The user Tetra already beat me to getting Hecate from creak+groan -> greek crone.
The prefix Hec- means 6.
The suffix -ate in chemistry means Oxygenised which is the O. Additionally, element ate/8 is Oxygen.
Look for six O. Door 29 mural has 3 O in shields and 3 halo.
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3. Use Hecate from above.
Hec-ate is 6×8 = 24. 24th letter is X. The mural above door 29 has naughts and crosses. The soldiers go OOO then XX and an X is missing.
It said the “floorboards” creak and groan and that word is unusual in that is has OOO. Door 29 mural has OOO in shields.
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4.
Paragraph 4:
> As for the “correct” path or the “most appropriate” path….
The sentence says “As for/four” then the ellipsis has 4 periods not 3. This means “as a string of …….”.
Look at the pillar on door 12. It has 29 dots consistently spread like ellipsis.
The door to 29 also has a column of 22 dots, giving the wrong answer door, but they are not evenly spaced like ellipsis dots, and we were roughly told “As The Four ….”
Therefore use 29.
The text about being right/correct is talking about the correct dots being on the left pillar of right hand incorrect door, and not right pillar of the left hand correct door. This also says to use 29 dots.
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5.
> “as for the ‘correct’ path that might be something else”.
Again using “as four”.
Text is about choosing what’s not right, so look for crosses not ticks/checks.
So look for 4 crosses.
At door 29 there are 4 X on the mural of door 29. 2 in the soldiers feet and 2 in the arms of the angels.
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6.
> They studied the old frescoes for clues but missed the obvious signs.
In the book “obvious” is split into ob-vious with a new line. For the 2nd half use the Roman numeral at start to get VIuos = 6uos
“uos” is ambigram of “son”/sun and door 29 has moon, which is what you see when sun in sky orbits 180 degrees. The moon is made of 6 lines and is directly above the 9 on the sign, which is ambigram of 6.
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7.
“obvious” is written as “ob-” then “vious”. The minus with “ob” implies subtracting it from BOX to get X.
We now have X-6-uos which means six Xs. There actually are arguably 6 crosses on the mural if you count the 2 on the boat with the clearer 2 in the feet and 2 in the arms.
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8.
> a bright room whose walls were in some disrepair
“Right broom”/”broom right” is actually both a spoonerism and a portmanteau. Both of these wordplay happen in first paragraph.
Room 29 mural has 2+ men at a port. Port-man-two.
“Bright room” => broom right room.
I’m going to take a wild guess and say that you are David Gentile using an alias because White Raven banned you originally for posting nonsense.
I started putting multiple answers in posts to avoid “spamming” but see I’ll get low quality trash replies regardless
I am not David Gentile. I come from Blue Prince postgame where solving MAZE helps solving BP. MAZE actually is much easier.
IMO the best solution I wrote here was #4 and it is absolutely valid and real.
The 29 equally spaced dots and “as for/four” paired with the 4 dot ellipsis.
You say that this new original valid solution is “nonsense” so back up your claim and give a better explanation.
This time use logic rather than inventing schizo theories about people who probably haven’t talked to or thought about you in over a decade
I think Alex was just talking about the content of your posts, not the length. It is wholly unobjectionable to combine your thoughts into long posts.
In fairness to White Raven, he didn’t ban Gentile just for posting nonsense. Almost everything posted on this site is nonsense. White Raven had sincere and justifiable concerns about Dave’s mental state, and he acted out of compassion for Dave at least as much as concern for the site.
Britzerland: What were you asking for a better explanation of? I couldn’t tell whether you meant an explanation of why Alex regarded your suggestions as nonsense, or an explanation of the elements that participate in your interpretation, or a solution to the room generally.
He is saying if I don’t like his solutions, I should come up with better ones. And then he cites Bright Room which I came up with circa 10 years ago.
I will try to be clearer than my previous post
I said SP should provide an explanation for why answer #4 in particular is nonsense.
I asked SP for a better explanation or reasoning about my answer #4 in particular as it was a strong answer but also was simple.
In room 4 SP just now asked me how I was getting chemical elements Cu and P from the numbers 29 and 15. I’m concious that this is a task that the majority of 13 year olds in school can do. The thing about the dictionary was similar. I’m trying to be mindful that this is the internet and maybe people are not native english speakers or have developmental things or long COVID or a TBI or are neurodiverse in a way Ive personally not encountered before.
My answer #4 involves counting dots and recognising that “four” and “for” rhyme. Im not asking for why all 8 are nonsense, Ive just picked the one with rhyming and counting dots.
To be clearer: I am asking SP to explain why answer #4 I gave is nonsense. There are 8 answers I wrote in total and I am talking just answer number four. All 8 would be too much. Please just do answer 4.
The 8 answers are split up with “————-” and answer 4 begins with “4.”. It ends when there is a “————-” and a “5.”.
(^ The answer I am asking SP to use logic to explain why it is “nonsense” is just that fourth answer which is the text after “4.”)
You’re passive aggressiveness isn’t going to work on me. no one here can understand your “solutions”, not even 13-year-olds.
This might be obvious, but it bears pointing out: The dialog for this room highlights the fact that this room is on the path (in the sense that the exits provide a straightforward, no-nonsense path to the center without having to return to Room 1, as you would if you were on the Loop), while not being on the shortest path in either direction.
Hence, it is on the “right” path but not the “correct” or “most appropriate” path.
That’s an interesting suggestion. Compare Room 5, where the chances of choosing “wisely” means choosing a door that keeps you on the path, even though you aren’t on the 16-step solution path at that point.
Just wanted to point out that the board with the moon and the star is a colorless version of the Morocco flag
Can you provide a source for this? It does not match any Morroccan flag I am currently able to find.